CARM: Radio 8_5

Faith and Reason 8_5

Friday August 5, 2011
Show Notes

Hate mail Friday: Mailer writes: “Mr. Slick you don’t have authority to teach Christian doctrine…” and “…you should not receive income…” Matt speculates as to what might occur if and when the people of God were to preach and teach the Gospel message without compromise.

Caller Craig from the United Kingdom: What do you find is the main problem with Mormonism and the Book of Mormon?Some topical discussion concluding with: Under the weight of facts and critical thinking Mormonism simply fails to hold up.

Hate mail from John: Criticizing Matt for not presenting (in his opinion) the Gospel properly.

Caller Lee from Nampa (an LDS listener) offers his “qualified “ opinion regarding LDS doctrines and Matt offers his invitation for Lee to come to the studio and discuss LDS theology on the air. Some very informative dialog follows with references to both the Bible and the Book of Mormon. Matt demonstrates to Lee the unfortunate impossibility our LDS friends attempts to earn God's grace when trying to meet the demands of LDS scripture, such as is found in the Book of Mormon:

Moroni 10:32 Yea, come unto Christ, and be perfected in him, and deny yourselves of all ungodliness; and if ye shall deny yourselves of all ungodliness, and love God with all your might, mind and strength, then is his grace sufficient for you…

Matt demonstrates this to be contrary to Biblical theology as compared with
Romans 11: 5-6:5 So too at the present time there is a remnant, chosen by grace. 6 But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works, otherwise grace would no longer be grace.

Matt further demonstrates the “grace” we are given by God is “unmerited” as illustrated in Galatians 3:10 and James 2:10 in contrast to the Book of Mormon quote above. Lee abruptly hangs up and Matt once again offers his invitation for Lee to come to the show and talk to him live about LDS teachings.

Caller Scott from North Carolina states he is a “Theonomist” who appreciates the ministry of CARM.http://carm.org/dictionary-theonomy

Theonomy

Theonomy comes from two Greek words, theos meaning God and nomos meaning law. So theonomy means God's Law. Theonomy is defined in different but similar ways. Basically, it is the view that God's law in all areas of OT moral punishments need to be applied today including government.

Matt asks Scott if in his theonomist view he would approve of a death penalty application to anyone who in the present day would work on the Sabbath? Listen for Scott’s answer: “Absolutely, as resounding ‘yes’.”